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Novaya Gazeta, July 1, 2004

Sergei Ivanenko, deputy chairman of Yabloko: This is not Caesar’s regime: this is an aristocratic regime

Sergei Ivanenko represents Yabloko in Committee 2008. In his opinion, the committee has three main tasks. He explained his view to Vladimir Maximov

Sergei  IvanenkoIvanenko: The first is an independent political assessment of developments in the country. We have made a number of political statements on the situation in Chechnya, on defending Igor Sutyagin, on filing court cases over the results of the parliamentary elections. The second is to popularize the ideas and values of a liberal democracy. Today we are losing the competition with representatives of the ideology of the party of power. It is very hard to expect to succeed, if only 10-15% of the population adhere to democratic ideas, instead of 80-90%, as was the case at the end of the 1980s. The third task is to create a democratic coalition which would participate in elections at all levels.

Question: What can be done in conditions of an authoritarian regime?

Ivanenko: The regime is not purely authoritarian: this is not Caesar’s regime, but rather an aristocratic regime. Today a whole class has been created, that is interested in preventing the establishment of a developed democracy in Russia, as this would get rid of its privileges. It would deprive them of the possibility of holding posts forever, which provide them with political and material dividends. It would deprive them of protection from the mass media, whose voice has been shut off, as there is a massive gap between the official and real earnings of this class. It would remove the privileges related to business which is impossible to perform without access to officials. Naturally we oppose this system.

Question: With whom is Yabloko ready to unite to change the situation?

Ivanenko: With democratic forces. You cannot unite with political representatives of the oligarchs. The oligarchs always back the party in power and not civil society and political freedom. Big capital will always move in line with the authorities.

Question: And it doesn’t want to, it ends up in jail?

Ivanenko: Or in other similar places… It is impossible to merge with radicals, who have to date kept the names Lenin and Stalin on their banners.

Question: How can you work, as you are cut off from the mass media, especially in circumstances, where sponsors have been shown what happens if they finance the wrong people?

Ivanenko: Parties are established to work in opposition, when there are no other options. Yabloko will do the following: protect the real rights of citizens, protect electoral rights and fight the administrative resource, engage in protest actions against the infringement of civilian and political rights. Coalition work: we are trying to collect all the honest democrats, we are holding talks with public organizations. Expert work: we draft positions on the most important areas for the public and bring them to their attention through the mass media which remain independent. “The damn is bursting”. The more you press down on a spring, the stronger it rebounds. People are already sick and tired of watching the Vremya programme of 1982 [Ed. Soviet title of the news that tended not to report about real developments in the Soviet Union]. Gradually they will become more interested in independent views. Our task is to make these words serious and interesting for people..

 

Novaya Gazeta, July 1, 2004

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