| Anchor: Andrei Shariy. Correspondent of
Radio Liberty Vladimir Dolin interviewed the leader of the YABLOKO
party Grigory Yavlinsky.
Shariy: The Council of the State Duma adopted
on Tuesday a proposal from the communists and the YABLOKO factions
on discussing the no-confidence motion in the Cabinet of Mikhail
Kasyanov. Our correspondent Vladimir Dolin interviews the leader
of the YABLOKO faction Grigory Yavlinsky on this issue.
Dolin: The initiator of the vote of no-confidence
to the Cabinet Grigory Yavlinsky holds no illusions. It is unlikely
that the pro-governmental majority of the Duma will dismiss Mikhail
Yavlinsky: Yes, our possibilities are extremely
limited. But it is our duty to realise them to the full.
Dolin: But still Grigory Yavlinsky considers that
it is necessary to table in the Duma a no-confidence motion.
Yavlinsky: This is the only way to seriously
discuss the economic strategy of the country, to discuss its domestic
policies and security issues which recently reached an absurd
situation, where a number of crimes, ordered crimes are committed
virtually daily. Second, it is a political act when all the political
forces of the country can express their attitude to the present
economic policies of the country and Russia's domestic policy.
Dolin: According to YABLOKO's leader, the 'technical"
Cabinet of Mikhail Kasyanov should be made answerable for its
sins, that were neglected by the deputies of the Duma for three
Yavlinsky: The government should answer and
is responsible for developments that were caused by its inability
to perform its constitutional duties.
Dolin: Today it is high time to start a no-confidence
motion, thinks Yavlinsky.
Yavlinsky: Signs have emerged that the Cabinet
has begun considering itself as a provisional Cabinet which will
soon leave the Government's building. At the same time the present
economic policies of the Cabinet lay down the grounds for our
economic achievements and results for 2004 and 2005, and partially
2006. Therefore, the Cabinet, which is packing its suitcases -
and it is easy to imagine what they are putting into their suitcases
- represents a government which is unlikely to offer the country
a policy which will ensure its economic growth at rates at least
close to those proposed by the President in his Address [to the
Dolin: But Grigory Yavlinsky has not only addressed
deputies on this issue.
Yavlinsky: We, including the President, have
a week to think it over. If the President tells the so-called
centrists to vote for the no-confidence motion, the Cabinet will
get the political impulse the President mentioned in his Address.
Dolin: Grigory Yavlinsky is concerned about issues
covering a far broader scope than the fate of Mikhail Kasyanov
and his Cabinet.
Yavlinsky: It is absolutely necessary to finally
formulate a thesis about a responsible political Cabinet.
Dolin: It transpires that there is such a party ready
to assume responsibility for the performance of such a Cabinet.
Yavlinsky: We have such candidates, and we have
seriously analysed the situation and believe that in this situation
YABLOKO is to a large extent ready to work in the government,
and speaking about definite candidacies - if the President finds
it necessary, we are ready to discuss this issue.
Dolin: Furthermore Grigory Yavlinsky is not at all
worried by charges from the [Union of ] Right-Wing [Forces] and
the centrists that this is a PR campaign by the YABLOKO party
and this is an unnatural alliance of the right and left wing in
Yavlinsky: Murders of deputies, governors and
key businessmen: I don't worry here about who is my ally on this
issue. In addition over the past three years the Prime Minister
has virtually ot reported to the State Duma and has not answered
any questions. We cannot agree and don't agree with 80% of the
demands set forth to the Cabinet by the communists. But this does
not imply that we cannot set forth our own demands: Take a broader
look at the problem: the situation in the Duma with the help of
the administrative resource, manipulation with people's minds
in 1999 and even earlier - all this led to a situation where you
have the following structure in the Duma: you are either with
Zhirinovsky, or with the communists, and how one can make a reasonable
choice between them? This means that there is only one way out:
I, for example, am ashamed to look at those who will now make
unite with Zhirinovsky to support the Cabinet. And there is only one way out: not to pay attention. We have our views on what
the Cabinet should be like and how it should work. We cannot accept
any more a situation where for three years not a single important
political question has been asked or discussed. Further presidential
elections are coming soon, and there has been no discussion of
this kind. So we are setting this question. What is the difference
for us: who supports us here?
Dolin: Yavlinsky thinks that tomorrow's visit of
Mikhail Kasyanov to the Duma is directly attributable to the inclusion
of the no-confidence motion in the agenda of the Duma's meeting
on June 18, 2003.